Hard choice.... my husband was DF'd for telling the truth... so was one of my kids... the other? kind of DA'd themself... unfortunately, they wrote the Society in all good heartedness, then was DF'd by the locals. I wasn't DF'd, and decided not to DA myself.... I don't want to give them any notion that I care about what they say... I don't want to give them a 'letter', and I hope I can POSSIBLY help others. Some of my fam are still in, and though they don't really talk to me much (even when I was still in, they had the hamster wheel to run) I might have a better chance to talk with them if I am not DF'd... Maybe not, but I want to give the WT no "recognition"
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To DA or not to DA, that is the question?
by dubstepped inlet me preface this by saying that i don't expect anyone here to make my decision for me.
i do however note that like the bible says, in the multitude of counselors there is wisdom, and this is a huge decision, so i wanted to put it out there for discussion.
i really appreciate your words of wisdom, as this affects not just me but my wife also, as we find ourselves in the same boat.
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Demoted from elder to MS, anybody ever heard of this?
by Naoscillator inso a friend in a nearby hall told me their co came through, and in a hellish week of long meetings and inquisition overhauled the boe.
only one remains as elder, three were re-appointed as ms, and one, the cobe was deleted entirely.. two new elders were brought in as new secretary and cobe / watchtower conductor, respectively, and introduced to the congregation from the platform on sunday immediately following his second talk.
he reminded everybody of the authority he has and then named the new appointees.
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I have seen things change up in cases where there has been child abuse in a congregation... has this happened?
Or, maybe disagreement in selling the Kingdom Hall? or "remodeling"? and taking out a loan?
If the elders do not go along with the plan, are willing to speak up or 'tell the truth', it is easy to make the deletions, and move the new crew in...
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Everything You Wanted to Know About Cart Witnessing But Were Afraid to Ask
by OrphanCrow inorange county public witnessing has a website up and running.. http://ocpw.org/.
the pw "reminders" (rules) are simplified on this website:.
http://ocpw.weebly.com/reminders.html.
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OMG, they are sooo 21st century!
Pinterest! Jehovah's celestial chariot... um... earthly cart.... just keeps going faster and faster!
https://www.pinterest.com/chantaleneault/jworg-public-witnessing/
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You Tube Video Ex-Betheliite Ex-Walkill Worker Layed Off!
by cha ching ini am not sure if this guy is really from bethel, or walkill, but if he is....this poor guy really tells it like it is from the heart.
he was surprised.. at the 'oh so fast, pack your bags, get your stuff outta here' layoff !.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk1xh1egjcu
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Thank you..... ALL of you ex-Beth-hell-ites, for surviving, for telling your life experiences, for not letting the evil overtake you. When other people can see that it is not a 'one time deal'. a 'local.. "Jehovah will take care of him" situation.... it helps the rest of us survive.
That is the "way the Watchtower dog hunts." Like an abusive relationship, they ask the most of you, accuse you of the worst... belittle you... devalue you... make it all "your fault", and then? ask you why you are upset!
So sorry, life is too short, I really do believe what happened to you, I have experienced such things myself when working on assembly hall builds. Some people are just like the WTS, trying to downplay all the personal, monetary sacrifices that people truly have made. Good point about the "ones who supervise," as in "do they get their hands dirty? work hard?" The people from Beth-Hell, that 'supervised' at the build, always had 'breakfast & their daily text' while all the good, honest-hearted, giving people, who woke up early, drove 2 hours to get there, were outside working hard.... giving their "all."
The GB get their airplane tickets paid, suits bought and tailored for them, meals, deals, hotel rooms.... They are certainly NOT "tent makers"... They are the "rent takers"!
*** w06 1/1 p. 21 How Firm Is Your Trust in God? ***
A Balanced Viewpoint
6 Of course, Jesus did not encourage his listeners to stop working and wait for God somehow to provide for their families. Even the birds have to search for food for themselves and their young. Thus, Christians had to work if they wanted to eat. .........The apostle Paul often worked as a tentmaker to support himself. (Acts 18:1-4; 1 Thessalonians 2:9)
Yes, there is a double standard. Congratulations to all of us who have escaped!
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You Tube Video Ex-Betheliite Ex-Walkill Worker Layed Off!
by cha ching ini am not sure if this guy is really from bethel, or walkill, but if he is....this poor guy really tells it like it is from the heart.
he was surprised.. at the 'oh so fast, pack your bags, get your stuff outta here' layoff !.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk1xh1egjcu
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Such audacity! Beg for money, take the money, spend the money.....
Take care of the sheep? nope.....
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You Tube Video Ex-Betheliite Ex-Walkill Worker Layed Off!
by cha ching ini am not sure if this guy is really from bethel, or walkill, but if he is....this poor guy really tells it like it is from the heart.
he was surprised.. at the 'oh so fast, pack your bags, get your stuff outta here' layoff !.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk1xh1egjcu
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And charging him for his meal??? As if WT had to pay for it themselves ! They get CASH donations, money willed to them! Even a convict gets one last meal, right?
PS Thx Londo, I was hoping for more vids from him.
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If you could do anything publicly to get JWs out
by cognac inand money wasn't an issue, what would it be?
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My sister had a great idea: HIre a hacker that could get access to all the Watchtower's files, so everyone could see behind the scenes as to what the WT really is. What bonds, what stocks, list of pedophiles, all the dirty secrets it has, then spread it on the internet. -
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You Tube Video Ex-Betheliite Ex-Walkill Worker Layed Off!
by cha ching ini am not sure if this guy is really from bethel, or walkill, but if he is....this poor guy really tells it like it is from the heart.
he was surprised.. at the 'oh so fast, pack your bags, get your stuff outta here' layoff !.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk1xh1egjcu
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You Tube Video Ex-Betheliite Ex-Walkill Worker Layed Off!
by cha ching ini am not sure if this guy is really from bethel, or walkill, but if he is....this poor guy really tells it like it is from the heart.
he was surprised.. at the 'oh so fast, pack your bags, get your stuff outta here' layoff !.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk1xh1egjcu
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Yes, PTN.... It's strange how he can tie in "Satan's world will treat you better than Jehovah's organization".. & still want his "cards"...
Nowwhat: crazy how college (Satan's design) is the key! If he was a Web designer? Programmer?
Zeb... yep, one day he might be glad they are lost one day.. so many wish for that!
Splash... Family? More like reality.. Maybe Marcus will make some more vids!
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Judicial committee letter to elders
by Israel Ricky Gonzales inwarning: this is rather lengthy.
i thought i would post this information that i took with me to my judicial committee.
the elders promised that we would talk about everything that was bothering me, yet, we ended up talking about less than 10% of it.
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Haha Contr013r! Love it! Good one!